Can you feel the heat on your face? This episode we want to transport you right to the sunny island of Barbados. Anyone’s guess which rum we’ll be exploring??
If you haven’t guessed already, it’s Mount Gay, not only the oldest rum in Barbados, but the oldest rum in the world!! I’m thrilled that Trudiann Branker, the trailblazing Master Blender, is joining us.
Starting at the distillery in 2014 as Quality Assurance Manager, Trudiann rose to prominence with her unique ability to merge scientific expertise and creative intuition.
Under her guidance, Mount Gay has unveiled award-winning innovations like the Master Blender Collection and the Single Estate Series!
We met at the launch of the Single Estate Series 2, and I couldn’t wait to have her on the show! Single Estate is super special, and it’s great to have her explain how it all came to be
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>> Susan Schwartz: Can you feel the heat on your face? This
Speaker:episode, we want to transport you right to the sunny
Speaker:island of Barbados. Anyone's
Speaker:guess which rum we'll be exploring?
Speaker:I'm, um, Susan Schwartz, your drinking companion and
Speaker:this is Lush Life podcast. Every
Speaker:week we're inspired to live life one cocktail
Speaker:at a time. If you haven't
Speaker:guessed already, it's Mount Gay. Not only
Speaker:the oldest rum in Barbados, but the oldest
Speaker:rum in the world. I'm thrilled
Speaker:that Trudianne Brancker, the trailblazing master
Speaker:blender, is joining us today.
Speaker:Starting at the distillery in 2014 as
Speaker:Quality Assurance manager, Trudianne
Speaker:rose to prominence with her unique ability to merge
Speaker:scientific expertise and
Speaker:creative intuition. Under her
Speaker:guidance, Mount Gay has unveiled award
Speaker:winning innovations like the Master Blender
Speaker:collection and the Single Estate series.
Speaker:We met at the launch of the Single Estate series
Speaker:too, and I couldn't wait to have her on the
Speaker:show. Single Estate is super
Speaker:special and it's great to have her here to explain how
Speaker:it all came to be. But before that,
Speaker:if you love Lush Life, we would so
Speaker:appreciate your support. By signing up to our
Speaker:newsletter. You can get our advice on
Speaker:anything to do with home bartending, where to drink
Speaker:in every major city, special recipes, and
Speaker:even your very own Lush Life mug.
Speaker:Just head to
Speaker:alushlifemanual.substack.com
Speaker:and sign up.
Speaker:Now let's get to Trudiam.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: It's so great to have you on the show.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Thank you. I'm honored.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: No, it's fantastic. I can't wait for everyone to hear about what you're
Speaker:doing because it's pretty exciting. So why don't we start
Speaker:off with a little introduction. Why don't you tell everyone who you are
Speaker:and, uh, what you do?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yeah. So I am Trudy Ann Brancker. I am the master
Speaker:blender for Montgay Rum.
Speaker:And in being the master blender, I really
Speaker:create all of the Mongay liquids and
Speaker:all of the research and development activities that,
Speaker:uh, happen at Moongay. I coordinate.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: I m always love to go right back to the beginning, to
Speaker:people's beginnings to see how they got where they did. So
Speaker:if you could tell me a little bit about where you grew up and I'll
Speaker:sprinkle some questions in along the way.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So, yes, definitely Bermudian. Very proud of that
Speaker:fact. Never tried to hide the accent. I don't think I could
Speaker:if I wanted to, but no. I was born in
Speaker:Barbados. I went to school here
Speaker:my entire child
Speaker:life. However, coming on to 18 when
Speaker:it was time to go to university. I did leave
Speaker:Barbados and I went to university
Speaker:at uh, Howard in Washington D.C. and you
Speaker:know, it was my first time
Speaker:going to the US When I went to Howard. So
Speaker:you know, definitely a new world there.
Speaker:However, you know it's, it was a, it was a real
Speaker:beginning with regards to, I would say
Speaker:my first love for Montguay would have
Speaker:started then leaving the island, having to take a
Speaker:gift to persons not knowing. I did reach for
Speaker:Mount Gay. Not ever thinking that
Speaker:uh, this is where I would sit one day. But you know it's,
Speaker:it's always, it's a full circle moment for me. But all
Speaker:through my spiritual, I was very attracted to the sciences,
Speaker:biology, chemistry, physics, math
Speaker:and I really continued that like journey throughout.
Speaker:In tertiary education at ah, university. Same
Speaker:study path, biology, chemistry. Never
Speaker:once connecting the dots again that this is where it
Speaker:would lead. But unknowingly setting
Speaker:the stage or providing myself with that base that
Speaker:would be used later. It's really funny,
Speaker:people always say when you're in a class, you'll never use that
Speaker:in real life. One day, you know, you realize, hope your
Speaker:career is based in a laboratory with the same
Speaker:look and um, feel that you had then.
Speaker:And it's that to me that's sometimes
Speaker:one of the best things to see that there's this real
Speaker:life application that happens for all of those
Speaker:studies that I had. But after I finished university
Speaker:I returned home to Barbados because it was really
Speaker:important for me at that point to contribute
Speaker:to Barbados and to bring what I had learned
Speaker:externally back home. I started my career
Speaker:at the brew at a local brewery.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Wait, wait, hold on, hold on. I have so many things to ask
Speaker:in between there before you get to the brewery. When you
Speaker:went to study science at Howard.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yes.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Were you thinking, did you think have a long term goal, like I
Speaker:want to be a doctor, a scientist or anything that or you just didn't
Speaker:really know. You just wanted to study science.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: I did. You know, I was still very much gonna follow the
Speaker:path my parents had, you know, envisioned for me. I was going
Speaker:to be a doctor. That was,
Speaker:that was the plan.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: That was the plan.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: That was the plan. It really was at that time,
Speaker:um, when I, I actually took a gap year
Speaker:before I was supposed to go back to med school, funny
Speaker:enough. And that's when we kind of land at the brewery,
Speaker:but we're not there yet. We're not there yet
Speaker:now.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: And also of course when you got to the US
Speaker:the drinking age is 21. So
Speaker:had rum been. I guess this is such a silly Question to ask
Speaker:someone who's from the islands, but was rum was a big part of
Speaker:your life?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yeah, it's always around, but, you know,
Speaker:different facets of it become around, if
Speaker:that's you. So as you were growing up, because the island
Speaker:is full of sugar cane and you know, of that relationship between
Speaker:sugarcane and rum, you know, you are always
Speaker:knowledgeable of how rum is made when you
Speaker:leave the. When, like at 18 in
Speaker:Barbados. At 18 is the legal
Speaker:drinking age or the legal consumption age. But
Speaker:it's not that at, uh, 18, all of a sudden,
Speaker:you know, there's this awakening that happens with
Speaker:regards to it.
Speaker:It is that, like I said, it's more about the process. And you know, that,
Speaker:that behind the scenes that happens because you
Speaker:grow where, like I said, there's sugarcane everywhere.
Speaker:I would say for me, it was definitely
Speaker:as I, as I got older, it was more of a gift to
Speaker:people. It was a representation of Barbados for
Speaker:me. It was always something I would take back for like a
Speaker:professor or somebody, you know, you know, a
Speaker:piece of Barbados. That is what it represented to me
Speaker:then as I got older and socially
Speaker:you would go out, of course it would be, it would be the choice
Speaker:that I, that I would make because, like, again, it really always
Speaker:resonated for me as being a very Barbadian brand.
Speaker:And that to me, I think was, was more how
Speaker:I saw it and how it evolved many
Speaker:years later when the opportunity presents itself to be a
Speaker:member of the Munge family, of course
Speaker:in my mind is the opportunity, you know, of a lifetime to
Speaker:really become a member of the
Speaker:Mongue family and represent a brand that,
Speaker:ah, in my mind, you know, is so
Speaker:Barbadian. But we're not there yet either.
Speaker:We're still not there.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: So you go back and you, your first
Speaker:job is, you said, in a brewery.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So I come back to Barbados and,
Speaker:uh, you know, as usual, you know, you're taking a year off, but you've still got to do
Speaker:something. You still got to do something. And yeah,
Speaker:I do. I started working at the local brewery and I think that
Speaker:that's really. Everything changed where
Speaker:manufacturing became a part of
Speaker:our career path, that I fell in love with
Speaker:the production, the, you know, the process to go
Speaker:through from raw material to, you know, the science
Speaker:involved, where yeast transform sugars
Speaker:into alcoholic. It all resonated so
Speaker:naturally and it, you know, I was
Speaker:enthusiastic to go every day to study
Speaker:more, to become part of this. And I think after
Speaker:maybe like a week after joining the
Speaker:brewery, you know, it was, I was at that point where it was like, this
Speaker:is it. Like, I think this is the career path
Speaker:for me. I still didn't think about Mount
Speaker:Gay yet. We weren't even thinking about it at
Speaker:that point. But, you know, as I, as I spent a few more
Speaker:years and I went moved from being the brewer to
Speaker:supply chain to quality assurance and really
Speaker:understanding all the different facets of the, of, uh, the
Speaker:process, it's where I was able to
Speaker:make choices, to focus on
Speaker:things like the taste and the organoleptics,
Speaker:you know, the nose, the taste, how we develop
Speaker:them, what happens at each stage. And I think right there
Speaker:was the turning point where it became like
Speaker:one day, one day, you know, it was. This was the
Speaker:direction that pointed me towards Mongie right then.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: I would hate to be a fly on the wall in the conversation of, mom,
Speaker:dad, I'm not going to be a doctor,
Speaker:I'm going to work at the brewery. I'm sure
Speaker:that it was fine, but.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: You know, you know, I would say this, it was definitely
Speaker:not the easiest conversation I've ever had with them.
Speaker:Uh, however, I think, I think
Speaker:it became significantly better when I became the master
Speaker:blender at Moatgame. When they were like, yeah, of course, we love.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Listen, I totally understand. My dad was like, are you sure.
Speaker:>> Susan Schwartz: You don't want to be a lawyer?
Speaker:>> Speaker B: I was like, yeah, Dad, I. I'm sure.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: So I totally understand. So tell me about the
Speaker:opportunity to join Mount Gay. Was it from the
Speaker:brewery to Mount Gay? What pulled you there?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So in 2014, Remy
Speaker:Contra was able to acquire the
Speaker:physical distillery. Prior to that, they
Speaker:had owned the brand, the bottling facility and all the
Speaker:aging facilities, but not the distillery itself.
Speaker:And that was really where the opportunity presented
Speaker:itself. Because having spent a few years
Speaker:at the brewery, maybe approximately eight or so, really
Speaker:my focus was fermentation as well as organoleptics
Speaker:associated with fermentation specifically.
Speaker:And it was just a great opportunity to be able
Speaker:to come to bring that specialty to
Speaker:the Montguay team and really help
Speaker:them with regards to starting up this new
Speaker:distillation process and kind of molding
Speaker:it into what Montgie needed it to be. And that's,
Speaker:uh, how we started. So I would have come in as
Speaker:the quality assurance manager here at Montney when
Speaker:we took on a brand new process, distillation. And,
Speaker:you know, we'll get further into all the other
Speaker:processes we've taken on over the years,
Speaker:but it was really the opportunity to have that, uh,
Speaker:developed and reconnect what had been done in the
Speaker:Past with where we needed to go in the future
Speaker:to make sure that the gave
Speaker:liquids would always be at the quality that, you know,
Speaker:everyone knows and loves.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Oh boy, there's so much in there. Maybe we go to. Why don't
Speaker:you tell people a little bit about the history of Mount
Speaker:Gay so we can kind of go
Speaker:backward to go forward, you know.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So Mount Gay is
Speaker:321 years old. So for the
Speaker:last 300 plus centuries, you know,
Speaker:Mongue has operated actually right here where I
Speaker:sit doing this interview in St.
Speaker:Lucie, the most northern, um,
Speaker:parish of the island. And it's always been located in
Speaker:this specific spot. And what has happened over the years
Speaker:is, as you know, it has changed hands, it has changed
Speaker:owners. One thing that has stayed the same is where it
Speaker:is and how they do what they do.
Speaker:So throughout the years it's very much been the passing now
Speaker:of very specific traditions. The, you know, the art
Speaker:of distillation, you know, blending coming
Speaker:in the latter part of Mount
Speaker:Gay's history. But what a lot
Speaker:of people don't necessarily know is even
Speaker:though certain aspects of the brand may not have all been owned by the
Speaker:same person, it was still one cohesive function where the
Speaker:distillery made liquids which would then come to aging, which would go
Speaker:to the bottling facility. And that's really how it's always been.
Speaker:In uh, 2014, when I joined Remy
Speaker:Concho was given the opportunity to purchase the distillery,
Speaker:to really bring the entire process
Speaker:in under one ownership. And that's
Speaker:really what happened there. And
Speaker:it didn't call for any physical movement of the
Speaker:facilities. It really actually with the significance of
Speaker:it was, was very small. I think a fence was
Speaker:removed. Literal, physical
Speaker:fence. But, but what happened is that, you know, you were
Speaker:able to have one team that would be able
Speaker:to go from start all the way distillation,
Speaker:acquirement of um, raw materials m molasses, all the
Speaker:way to bottling and through to distribution throughout the
Speaker:world. And that's really what happened in
Speaker:2014 when I joined. Shortly after that, in
Speaker:2015, we added something a little more to it. But we'll
Speaker:get to that little later and
Speaker:uh, we'll get to that in a sec.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: So just to clarify for people who might be slightly
Speaker:confused, did that change when everything came
Speaker:under one? Did that change the liquid at
Speaker:all or was the taste still the same
Speaker:everything that you bought? You know, if you bought a Mount Gay bottle in
Speaker:2000 and they bought one in 2014, did had
Speaker:that changed at all.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So no, nothing changed. Because you know
Speaker:what, what was Already part of the Remy route was all of the
Speaker:age stock. So all of the maturation, all of the aging,
Speaker:all of the blending that was already happening. Uh, my
Speaker:predecessor, Alan Smith, he had been taking care of that and before
Speaker:him, Jerry Edwards, for decades. And they. They
Speaker:were the ones who worked very closely with distillation,
Speaker:you know, to be able to. To keep the consistency that was
Speaker:needed for Mount Gate. So, you know, it was more
Speaker:paperwork than anything
Speaker:else. But these stalwarts in the
Speaker:industry, you know, that they were the gatekeepers
Speaker:of Montgay's liquid quality. And that is
Speaker:definitely one of the things that is handed over from master lender
Speaker:to master blender.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: As a new master blender, obviously, you want to make
Speaker:your own stamp on things. So what
Speaker:kind of things were you thinking of doing? And then what came
Speaker:to fruition?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So I'll say, as the new master blender, I
Speaker:never once thought about the
Speaker:change. Uh-huh. You always. What is
Speaker:first in your mind is the consistency.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Okay.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: This will be the same Eclipse, the same black
Speaker:barrel, the same EXO that everybody knows. They will not
Speaker:even be able to tell that there's been a difference. But
Speaker:that's really not what happens, actually. But, uh,
Speaker:when I became Master Blender, I was given a very
Speaker:unique opportunity at that point, because we were at
Speaker:a stage where we really needed to relook at our entire
Speaker:portfolio and what we were offering. And
Speaker:we did do some changes
Speaker:to the core products at that point. And
Speaker:each individual product had its own way
Speaker:in which we went about it. I will say,
Speaker:specifically for Eclipse, Eclipse had little to
Speaker:no change. Eclipse had a label change,
Speaker:and that was it. But what. What
Speaker:was clearly demonstrated was the. The
Speaker:quantum of barrels and the type of barrels. So for me, it
Speaker:was very important to have transparency, really
Speaker:explaining to each person, you know, each. Each client
Speaker:what is in the bottle, you know, the type of barrels we use
Speaker:and things of that such exo, the
Speaker:third master blender to make it. It's.
Speaker:It's definitely, I think, the one that I had
Speaker:the most, um, um, angst and I
Speaker:was super nervous about. But once
Speaker:again, I was able to add a third barrel type to EXO
Speaker:to really enhance what was already there. Not
Speaker:change, you know, the liquid,
Speaker:but really more highlight the specifics
Speaker:that make xoxo. And for me,
Speaker:that was. That was a great opportunity.
Speaker:But I think what surpassed all of those was
Speaker:the creation of the Master Blender collection. We never
Speaker:could have anticipated the following, how
Speaker:well that product would have been
Speaker:accepted by everybody. I think I'm on my
Speaker:eighth virgin, eighth release
Speaker:this year. Now and then,
Speaker:like I said, the one that I think I speak
Speaker:about the most now is single estate.
Speaker:And being able to bring not only
Speaker:an addition to the core portfolio that was
Speaker:100% conceptualized by me,
Speaker:but also having it be such a Barbadian
Speaker:offering and such a monk gay offering to add
Speaker:to that corride, you know, 100
Speaker:made in Barbados with sugar cane
Speaker:that I can walk you across the street to the
Speaker:estate. And, and for me to bring something so
Speaker:transparent, so nuanced
Speaker:in for the world of rum, especially molasses
Speaker:based rum houses, has been
Speaker:quite, ah, it's been quite an honest to be able
Speaker:to bring it to persons all throughout the
Speaker:world.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Well, you know, we were lucky, I was really lucky to meet you at the
Speaker:Connaught when you came over and then, um, got to taste it.
Speaker:I love the single estate story.
Speaker:So if you could go really from A to Z
Speaker:of the beginning of it, what it actually
Speaker:means, what a single estate, how did it get in the bottle,
Speaker:all of that stuff, that would be great.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yeah, we're going to do that. But you know, you've heard me, I could do that
Speaker:for like two hours.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Not the two hour version, maybe the half an hour version.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Exactly. No, no, um, well, single estate,
Speaker:um, really started in, or really was
Speaker:reborn I should say, in 2015. So in
Speaker:2015, Montgay was able to acquire
Speaker:an estate, a sugar cane estate. It's right across the
Speaker:street from the distillery and in
Speaker:Aquarius we were, for the very first time in many, many
Speaker:years, be able to complete the entire
Speaker:value chain with regards to soil
Speaker:to sip where rum was concerned.
Speaker:And uh, by doing this, what we were
Speaker:able to do is grow
Speaker:sugarcane, bring
Speaker:Barbadian, know how
Speaker:Barbadian expertise into helping us grow
Speaker:this sugar cane. So, you know, you've heard me say it
Speaker:before, we became farmers and, and
Speaker:I'm very proudly so, very proudly so because you know,
Speaker:to have that, that, that sk part of the
Speaker:team is really an asset to the Montguay
Speaker:construct in total. But single Estate
Speaker:specifically is a rum made from
Speaker:100% Montgay
Speaker:molasses, which has been grown at
Speaker:the estate. And uh, in
Speaker:rum, that is such a rarity that you are
Speaker:able to connect your entire
Speaker:traceability specifically to
Speaker:where the cane was grown, what cultivars were
Speaker:grown, you know, which plots, crops were harvested,
Speaker:you know, what was the entire year's worth of process
Speaker:in terms of, you know, like rainfall and all
Speaker:these other, these other metrics. And to be
Speaker:able to, to have all of that information, to
Speaker:be able to. To have access, uh, to
Speaker:the sugarcane from this specific place, which is
Speaker:then converted into molasses still here
Speaker:on site and now here at
Speaker:Montguay. Because I can walk you from the estate
Speaker:to the mill, to fermentation, to
Speaker:distillation and aging. It
Speaker:really is a very nuanced way
Speaker:to think about rum, especially,
Speaker:like I said, molasses based rum. And that is
Speaker:effectively what single estate is. Single estate
Speaker:is 100% Mount Gay
Speaker:molasses, which has been fermented,
Speaker:distilled in our pot stills and aged here
Speaker:at ah, Mount Gay and then
Speaker:bottled and released. We've done
Speaker:two releases thus far. But what makes
Speaker:these releases specifically unique is the
Speaker:transparency that goes behind each and every one of
Speaker:them. So when you are
Speaker:ready to, you know, experience what single estate
Speaker:is, you not only have a beautiful liquid, which is
Speaker:a given, but you're also able
Speaker:to walk the walk that we walked over the
Speaker:five years before this rum
Speaker:became liquid and started as
Speaker:cane. So you're able to understand
Speaker:what the conditions were, how much can.
Speaker:Was harvested, how much molasses was made,
Speaker:you know, what the profile was as we went through every
Speaker:step. And, um, for me, I think that that's the piece that
Speaker:makes me the happiest about single estate. Being
Speaker:able to take everybody on that journey with
Speaker:me as you go from planting
Speaker:all the way to liquid creation. And
Speaker:that is really important. Embodies what
Speaker:singlestate is a holy
Speaker:Montgay product.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: So when you acquired this, this land
Speaker:with the sugar cane on it, which must have been
Speaker:so exciting for a scientist too, to be like, oh, I can play with
Speaker:this. Did you use the sugar
Speaker:cane that was already there? Were you already. Sorry, I'm going to bombard
Speaker:you with a billion questions right now. Was the soil the way you
Speaker:wanted it to be? Did you have to change things?
Speaker:Are you growing some sugar cane like
Speaker:this and then like a sugar
Speaker:cane.
Speaker:>> Susan Schwartz: And then there's a b.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Sugar cane to play with it. I mean, how much was.
Speaker:Was. Was already there and how much did
Speaker:you kind of play with? Or are you playing with? Should I
Speaker:say.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yeah, no. Um, these are great questions.
Speaker:So first, yes, there was already sugarcane
Speaker:there. Um, because it wasn't a. It wasn't a
Speaker:fallow estate. You know, there was sugar cane cane growing
Speaker:m. So we did. The very first harvest we
Speaker:would have done in 2015 was from Sugar cane that was
Speaker:already on the estate itself.
Speaker:In the years, in the future years,
Speaker:definitely you would see change. So what we do
Speaker:is we do regenerative agriculture.
Speaker:So it is really important to us to preserve the
Speaker:soil that exists at est, because you want to
Speaker:be sure that not necessarily in my tenure, but
Speaker:the next master blender, and the master blender after still has
Speaker:a healthy estate and is able to reap
Speaker:and to harvest sugarcane from that estate. So that was one of
Speaker:the major changes that we made, you know, just converting to
Speaker:this very different style of agriculture
Speaker:because it's really not the traditional way in which
Speaker:sugarcane would be cultivated or
Speaker:would be grown in Barbados. But once
Speaker:again, we're setting the example and we do have.
Speaker:Our estate is 324 acres. So it is a
Speaker:relatively smaller estate as well.
Speaker:Um, but one of the other things we did
Speaker:is, uh, specifically each plot kind of has
Speaker:its own cultivar. And in
Speaker:addition to that, we do have some
Speaker:cultivars that aren't necessarily the best
Speaker:sugar producers as well. Um, we have a nursery. And that
Speaker:nursery is really important to us because it's where we're able to
Speaker:grow newer, um, or I wouldn't call them
Speaker:newer because, you know, it doesn't start with us, but different
Speaker:cultivars for what you would make traditionally find on the estates
Speaker:in Barbados. And it also gives us that opportunity to
Speaker:understand how they, how they grow and how they develop on our
Speaker:estate itself.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Oh, wait, just one thing. What is a cultivar? Just in
Speaker:case people don't know.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So one of the things that I learned when the estate
Speaker:team and the agronomists that we had here
Speaker:at the time, a, uh, sugarcane is a cultivar and not
Speaker:a variety. So this is the terminology
Speaker:that we use. Uh, you know, I'm always
Speaker:super blown away, like when they're able to speak on this.
Speaker:And the knowledge that, you know, I get, because I am
Speaker:the blender at heart, I'm able
Speaker:to assimilate from what they
Speaker:know. So as, ah, you can see. And that, that is one of the benefits
Speaker:too, like I said of that, that knowledge and that know how it
Speaker:changes how we all speak, how we all view, you
Speaker:know, what we. And it's really brought a, uh,
Speaker:sensitivity with regards to may you
Speaker:move to the very next step, you know, which is like
Speaker:molasses creation. And then when it comes to the
Speaker:distillery and I'm able to start fermentation, you
Speaker:know, we're really just
Speaker:adding to that knowledge train that we've
Speaker:gotten from each of these steps as, uh, we get to the next
Speaker:step. And to me it was, it was just an amazing
Speaker:experience to be able to do that like from,
Speaker:from beginning and uh, def. We're not at
Speaker:the end just yet, but from beginning or
Speaker:creation to nowhere, we have a liquid that
Speaker:represents all of that.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: This may be a silly question, but when you created
Speaker:the molasses and then you created rum from
Speaker:it, a liquid from it, did it have the
Speaker:flavor that you thought it would? Were you, were
Speaker:you planning on a flavor? Did you even know what you
Speaker:were going to get? I mean, was it, it different from
Speaker:what you thought or the same?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: It was definitely different from what we
Speaker:thought. You know, it was, it was very one of those unknowns for
Speaker:us. The very first time the Wendy
Speaker:molasses showed up at the distillery, you know, before we
Speaker:went to the process, you know, everyone's kind of, we're all standing
Speaker:around and we're all like, okay, we're nervous but we're
Speaker:happy. You know, it's the first time. This time it's
Speaker:going to like a whole different area because it has to be segment
Speaker:segregated because we're very, very careful to ensure that,
Speaker:you know, when we make single estate, only the single estate
Speaker:inputs are part of the single estate process.
Speaker:And uh, it first got there and, and
Speaker:the first thing is it's a molasses, so it's not the
Speaker:sea molasses, which is what you traditionally will
Speaker:get, um, from the industry. Because just
Speaker:in case someone who's listening doesn't know, you know,
Speaker:rum, especially molasses based rum, have been
Speaker:made with what would be
Speaker:an, I guess almost a waste product of the
Speaker:sugar production process. And hence,
Speaker:you know, you get a grade which is called C
Speaker:molasses. However, for single estate, because sugar
Speaker:is not our goal, we
Speaker:use amylases, which is, you could
Speaker:say a different quality because, you know, it
Speaker:is, there's less sugar that has been extracted from the
Speaker:process, less processing, all of these things
Speaker:that have happened. So the first time, you know, we're all
Speaker:standing around, you know, it's arriving, you never believe. Like
Speaker:15 people watching molasses offload, which
Speaker:never happens. It's so
Speaker:automatic. But it was, it was all of that. It was the build up
Speaker:to, of something new happening, something exciting.
Speaker:I'd say for me the biggest aha, uh, moment was during
Speaker:fermentation where all of a sudden
Speaker:the notes that we were getting were very different. Different from what we
Speaker:get in our traditional montgay, you know, you know, people were passing
Speaker:by and we're like, pineapple? Is that what that
Speaker:is like? You know, it's, it was, it was this bouquet
Speaker:of fruitiness that are, uh, not Necessarily
Speaker:the ones that we would get, you know, traditional
Speaker:Mungay, you, you walk on by, you know, you're gonna
Speaker:get that nice, like, ripe banana, you know, like almost like a
Speaker:red apple sometimes that we know to expect this,
Speaker:we know at which stage, how many days, what will show
Speaker:up. But this was a whole new experience where
Speaker:it's this new molasses that we've
Speaker:never had access to before, and
Speaker:now we're going through. And so every day that fermenter
Speaker:kept, the process kept going, and that transformation of that
Speaker:sugar to ethanol was a new discovery
Speaker:for us, and it kept going from there. The discovery started
Speaker:there and as we moved to distillation and
Speaker:we're working very closely, you know, and those
Speaker:very first years we really had, um, one of
Speaker:the oldest tenured employees here at
Speaker:Montguay, Renault Blues. You know, he, he
Speaker:was still working with us at that time, you know, so it was very,
Speaker:it was very exciting for me because I wasn't master blender just
Speaker:yet, but the previous master blender knew he would
Speaker:never be the one to bring this to market.
Speaker:So this was really my very first project when I joined
Speaker:Imonge team. And uh, you know,
Speaker:I think at that excitement alone, this very, this person who
Speaker:has ran and, I don't know, so many distillations
Speaker:on the pots that I can count, you
Speaker:know, with me here, who is so excited about this
Speaker:very new product, you know. And
Speaker:the whole thing was, like I said, like, it was just excitement,
Speaker:discovery, all of those things. And uh, year on year
Speaker:I just kept discovering because as, ah, each
Speaker:harvest comes through the process, as each harvest
Speaker:goes to age and we go back and we look and we
Speaker:understand, like, what's happening over time. It's still
Speaker:a brand new library of montgay,
Speaker:Montgay cuts and montgay
Speaker:age runs that I'm still developing
Speaker:where single estate is concerned.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: And how long was it before until
Speaker:you, uh. I'll bring down the bottle. Hold on.
Speaker:Um, till you, uh, had it in the bottle.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So the first release we had was in
Speaker:2023.
Speaker:Yeah, it was a while, you know, it was, it was, you know, I like
Speaker:to call it one of the best worst kept secrets at
Speaker:Mungay because
Speaker:it was definitely like the, the worst kept secret if
Speaker:you visited. Because we definitely are so excited
Speaker:to show you the estate. And you know, if you happen to
Speaker:be here when it's happening, you kind of know, but like the best
Speaker:kept secret in that, you know, it really was not, um, something we
Speaker:spoke about in any sort of like Media
Speaker:coverage or, you know, any, any seminars or
Speaker:masterclasses. We weren't ready yet. We weren't ready yet. So it was
Speaker:really, you know, and that opportunity was amazing for the process
Speaker:team for me to be able to get very
Speaker:familiar with this product before we even came to market
Speaker:and were able to explain what it is, how it
Speaker:came about. And um, in 2023,
Speaker:oh, you're able to do the very first release. But for
Speaker:the first release I really wanted it to be just like a, like
Speaker:an ode to Montgay. So we still did a blend and
Speaker:you know, we chose to highlight the nuances of the
Speaker:2016 and the 2017 harvest.
Speaker:Since then, we've done a second release in
Speaker:2024 and this release is
Speaker:a vintage. It is a single harvest,
Speaker:the harvest of 2018. Quite a significant
Speaker:harvest as well, because this is the harvest where you um,
Speaker:heard me mention mentioned previously, you know, that we have that know
Speaker:how with our estate team having
Speaker:the, you know, an agronomist here with us as well as
Speaker:the agricultural coordinator who's worked many, many decades,
Speaker:um, in this industry and they joined the team that year. So
Speaker:this was their first harvest as well. So,
Speaker:you know, so now, you know, we've gone from being able, and I
Speaker:mean in two very short years and that speaks a lot to
Speaker:uh, how comfortable I was able to
Speaker:get with this process and how comfortably
Speaker:we're able now to transition, translate what we have done
Speaker:over the years to everyone to be able to go from
Speaker:a blend, you know, highlighting to harvest, really
Speaker:showing facing the uniqueness of having a
Speaker:molasses that was made
Speaker:specifically from the Montgae estate and then
Speaker:being able to showcase a vintage, just a uh,
Speaker:snapshot of that specific year
Speaker:and being able to, to bring that to everyone.
Speaker:So you'll see. I mean, you can tell I get really excited when I,
Speaker:when I have to seekable single estate.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Well, it is really exciting and, but it's
Speaker:interesting because if literally,
Speaker:uh, everyone has seen a Mount Gay bottle. Anyone who drinks
Speaker:any liquid, I think has seen what Mount Gay
Speaker:looks like the bottle. But this looks completely
Speaker:different. And why the decision to
Speaker:go with something that really doesn't.
Speaker:Doesn't look like anything that you've done before.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Yeah, because single, a single estate isn't like anything we
Speaker:released before. I mean it's, it makes
Speaker:sense when you think about it from that way. But
Speaker:so as a, you know, for many years, the,
Speaker:the specifics with how we treat the
Speaker:estate and the care and attention with regards to
Speaker:sustainability. Like I said, choosing
Speaker:to practice regenerative agriculture,
Speaker:despite it being more labor
Speaker:intensive in terms of the person, persons you need it being
Speaker:maybe sometimes more financially aggressive,
Speaker:because there are certain things you cannot use that,
Speaker:that, and you always choose what is better for the soil. When it came
Speaker:to designing the bottle, you know, the team really wanted
Speaker:to, to encapsulate that mindset,
Speaker:that transparency that we have with regards
Speaker:to how we do everything we do for Single Estate.
Speaker:So to represent Single Estate, you know, we chose
Speaker:a, um, bottle that is
Speaker:70% recycled glass. It's
Speaker:exactly minimalistic in its labeling,
Speaker:but still very transparent. So Single
Speaker:Estate always will, will be, will tell you what
Speaker:is in the bottle before you touch it. So if you get your hands on
Speaker:one, especially this one, you'll see there's a code at the
Speaker:front which is. It's the 2024 edition.
Speaker:It's zero. Exactly. Then there is
Speaker:a 02 because it is the second release of
Speaker:single estate. And then it's a vintage
Speaker:2018. So the VT18. And, uh,
Speaker:we did it in two separate distillations, same
Speaker:elastics, just two distillations about three months
Speaker:apart. So D2. And, uh, what the
Speaker:team has done is they've also placed a QR
Speaker:code where when you scan it, you
Speaker:literally can tell, you can get all the information
Speaker:associated with the entire process of
Speaker:making Single Estate for that year.
Speaker:So, you know, it's really funny when someone sits you
Speaker:down and they're like, tell me everything that happened five years
Speaker:ago.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: You're like, just go here.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Exactly. And then you. And they take all of that information.
Speaker:After speaking to me, after speaking to, you know, Kevin
Speaker:and the team at the sd, you know, after speaking to the
Speaker:distillation team, and it all goes there so
Speaker:that every single person can go, go on the journey of
Speaker:Single Estate. Because for us, Single Estate, it's an
Speaker:amazing product. You know, it's nothing like we've done
Speaker:before, but what is key to us is that it's setting the
Speaker:stage for that transparency where rum is
Speaker:concerned. You know, you talk the talk, but you do,
Speaker:you walk the walk sometimes as well. And for
Speaker:Meltgay, my ethos has always been. And
Speaker:the host of Montguay's ethos has always been, let's be
Speaker:transparent about how we do what we do. So, you know,
Speaker:if I say to you, you know, this has no sugar in it,
Speaker:or if I say, you know, there's been nothing added, what you're
Speaker:tasting is 100% from the barrel, you
Speaker:know, from, from our ability to select the
Speaker:specific Barrels to give you these nuances, then that
Speaker:is what it is. And um, that was the mindset I took when
Speaker:it came to Single Estate. Every single aspect
Speaker:that has gone into Single Estate is clearly there for, for anyone
Speaker:to see.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: And when you created them, how were you expecting
Speaker:people to drink it, to sip it and to
Speaker:add ice to it, to have it in
Speaker:your favorite cocktail? I mean, what were you thinking?
Speaker:Obviously it's super special, so you wouldn't want to just
Speaker:throw sour mix into it, but how would you want someone to
Speaker:drink it?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So for Single Estate, neat is always my
Speaker:recommendation. Um, neat, neat, neat. You know, I like to say
Speaker:I make something for every occasion. So, you know, if
Speaker:you want to make a cocktail, you know, we've definitely
Speaker:got rumored for that too as well, because
Speaker:that's, that's key, you know, that everything has its
Speaker:purpose. So for Single Estate specifically, I would recommend
Speaker:it neat. But if you want to go the cocktail way, you can
Speaker:go from Eclipse being amazing in a rum
Speaker:punch to Exo, you know, Coco Hill. You know,
Speaker:that's my, um, go to sometimes when it
Speaker:comes to a cocktail, very easy to make. And
Speaker:you, uh, know, I don't claim to be an
Speaker:X expert at, uh,
Speaker:crafting cocktails. You know, I always say I
Speaker:respect persons who. That is
Speaker:their talent and their ability to showcase what
Speaker:I have crafted in such a different way. I, ah, have
Speaker:complete, you know, but, but there are some of them that are easy enough
Speaker:that even I can make them.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: And me too, me too. I know
Speaker:I've got, I always. People are like, oh, you must make cocktails
Speaker:so well. I'm like, no, I leave that to the, the professionals.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Exactly, exactly. I also leave that to the
Speaker:professionals and make very simple ones.
Speaker:Like when you freeze coconut water and pour some exo
Speaker:over and I'm like, gorgeous, gorgeous. I've made this
Speaker:cocktail.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Yeah, that's really easy. Now you've had the
Speaker:first, which was a bled, and then you've had the second. So you've
Speaker:got to tell me what's happening now, what's happening next?
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So what's happening next? So definitely there will be a
Speaker:third. The idea here
Speaker:is, But I think you know what, I'll, I'll give you this. What, what you will
Speaker:see from Single Estate is you will see us developing
Speaker:Single Estate, you know, always staying true to the core, where the
Speaker:molasses comes from, transparency and the
Speaker:process, all of those things. But you will see some new
Speaker:things coming from Single Estate in
Speaker:the future. And because, because the idea here is to, is to
Speaker:really build on what we have, what
Speaker:we know, and. And be able to bring everyone in a
Speaker:little more to the journey that. That
Speaker:we take for Single Estate. Can't. Can't give away too much,
Speaker:but definitely look out.
Speaker:Um, we usually. Usually Single Estate is released
Speaker:around October, so we're very early in the
Speaker:year, very early in the year before
Speaker:we get there. But yes, definitely keep. Keep looking
Speaker:out for the. For the Single Estate releases.
Speaker:They're not very many. Um, every year we do
Speaker:only Release, uh,
Speaker:approximately 4,000 and some bottles.
Speaker:Because it's key for me that we're able to understand what
Speaker:is still happening with the. With the rum as it ages
Speaker:and as our age progresses. So never truly
Speaker:depleting any harvest or any specific year
Speaker:because, you know, we still have that. That journey to. To go
Speaker:on.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure the magic is happening in the, uh,
Speaker:in those greenhouses with the cultivars.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Listen, the magic, you know, that's the beauty of Single
Speaker:Estate. The magic's happening everywhere. So, you know, we've got some magic happening
Speaker:at the estate. You know, every year is unique,
Speaker:Every year is different, but then we've got all these different harvests that
Speaker:we've transformed into rum in the bonds also
Speaker:doing their thing, you know, with tropical aging. So it's,
Speaker:you know, it's almost as if it's like this whole construct by
Speaker:itself that's really happening. And. And,
Speaker:you know, it's like I said, M. You know, we went from that very
Speaker:first one having a finite amount of barrels that we all like
Speaker:watching every day. We're like, what's happening? Is it happening?
Speaker:Are we good to know? You know, it being
Speaker:just so much a part of who we are
Speaker:and, um, what we do, you know, setting up the tastings,
Speaker:monitoring year on year, you know, as we.
Speaker:As we go by. But I will say this, like, one thing
Speaker:has not changed. When it's harvest the plate,
Speaker:everybody is super excited. Like, so
Speaker:it's almost as if, like, you know, like a special
Speaker:celebration has come to Nimonge Estate
Speaker:specifically and also to the distillery.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Well, you know, I was excited to try the molasses. I'm
Speaker:sure that is, you know, every single time I'd be
Speaker:like, molasses, please. I do love it. It's funny,
Speaker:you know, I think Barbados Tourism Board
Speaker:should just say the magic is happening in Mount Gay.
Speaker:And that should be, you know, that is it.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: I will say that, you know, we do, like, we
Speaker:harvest. Mogay has their harvest, but it is part of a bigger
Speaker:celebration that happens in Barbados. So,
Speaker:you know, we tend to harvest at the end of the Barbados,
Speaker:the country's harvest. And right about that time we
Speaker:have, uh, a celebration called Cropover
Speaker:where, you know, traditionally, obviously many,
Speaker:many years ago, it was a celebration of the end of
Speaker:the harvest on the island. So cropped over. But now
Speaker:it's really, it's, it's our carnival that just does
Speaker:coincide with the end of our Barbadian harvest and
Speaker:the country does come alive. So we're a small part of
Speaker:that bigger excitement that happens every year around
Speaker:that time.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Well, gosh, I would love to be there.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: So you come to Barbados. You come in August,
Speaker:July, that.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Yeah, we are coming. We're coming. Well, this has been
Speaker:so great. I am so pleased that we got to talk about
Speaker:it and, and uh, so much exciting stuff is
Speaker:happening. I think the people who created Mount
Speaker:Gay in 1703 would be super pleased
Speaker:by, uh, the fact that not only is it still around,
Speaker:but that you're at the helm creating all these new
Speaker:things.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Thank you. Thank you.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Absolutely. Thank you for being on the show.
Speaker:It's been fantastic.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: It has been. It has been.
Speaker:>> Speaker B: Thank you and hopefully see you in London soon
Speaker:for another cocktail.
Speaker:>> Trudy Ann Brancker: Hopefully.
Speaker:>> Susan Schwartz: I so want to thank Trudy Ann for joining me on the
Speaker:program. Her choice for cocktail of the week is
Speaker:simple, yet so effective in showing off
Speaker:Mount Gay XO Rum. And thank
Speaker:you so much to Mount Gay for sponsoring the transcription
Speaker:for the hearing impaired.
Speaker:Our cocktail of the week is the Coco
Speaker:Hill. This minimalist masterpiece
Speaker:combines the rich, complex flavors of Mount Gay
Speaker:XO Rum with refreshing purity
Speaker:of coconut water, creating a drink that is
Speaker:as elegant as it is effortless.
Speaker:First, pour coconut water into a silicone ice
Speaker:cube mold or regular ice cube. Mold and
Speaker:freeze if you can. You want to
Speaker:make one fabulous ice cube.
Speaker:Once frozen, place the coconut ice cube or
Speaker:cubes into an old fashioned glass. Then
Speaker:pour 60 mils or 2 ounces of Mount Gay
Speaker:XO rum over the ice cube and
Speaker:serve. As I said,
Speaker:simple but effective.
Speaker:You'll find this recipe in all the cocktails of the week at
Speaker:a lush life manual.com plus links
Speaker:to most of the ingredients.
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